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Cerrar sugerencias Buscar Buscar. Saltar el carrusel. Carrusel anterior. Carrusel siguiente. Explora Audiolibros. You dream up these fake conversations and names to stir things up to drive people to your site to sell them something. No video to show us of you and how great you are?
Big talker. Solid credentials, huh? Tell us your real name and provide us with highlights of your wonderful martial arts skills to enlighten us. Then let us know who some of your students are. Sorry Snibb I am DOB No, Kenpo does not work. Does that even sound dimly credible to you? Knives are very deadly and leave massive damage. You do not block with the forearm, but rather pass the knife as you zone to stay away from the business end.
This type of Hollywood BS does in fact get people killed, and that is my concern. I watched a Kenpo 4th. Watch a boxer block- they merely swipe jabs and crosses away. Inward blocks do not work in real time. It breaks down into a sort of full-contact karate.
My aim is simple- I do not want people making life changing decisions based on errant information. You only show your ignorance. When you are an older more experienced man you will urge your grandkids to train in tkd mma boxing or self defence just to understand the reality of defending themselves.
Sorry, as a Kenpo practitioner myself, I really would hate for you to miss the chance to see an art that demonstrates the very core of what makes a martial arts technique effective. But I never understood why the art did not work until I studied Kenpo. You and I both know that Ed Parker had nought but a con. His hoax was not true Kenpo — he stole the name as well. My guess is that he was a colored rank in Kempo — a poor one at that.
What he did was an absolute disgrace, and there may never be a way to reverse the damage he has caused. Anyone in the know can easily spot him as a fake. Mills- the lawsuit is in the Deseret News of Utah- but I did lie. The claimant was awarded 89, and may go to , Or is their another talk show host named Mills Crenshaw in Utah?
So who is the liar? I am just tired of there being so much ignorance in America. This is my real name. I ran the Ed Parker Santa Monica school for about 2 years in the 70s. I have trained in Kenpo, judo, Bjj, kick boxing- American and Muay Thai, boxing, weapons, Kali, Silat, escrima, panantukan and pananjakman. Now I just train a few people overseas and work out.
I hike, swim and lift weights also. Never got a black from Chow, promoted from 1st. One of the effects of time is changing history. Ron Morgan is my student. I think I know who Bill Nadal is. I have no idea who Lumberjack Dave is or Monfongo.
I knew of Mills Crenshaw but have never met him. I knew Tom Bleecker from the 60s to the 70s and have not seen him in about 40 years. As to respect- I give it to those that deserve it. Ed deserves little if any. He was critical in promoting martial arts, but his skills are non-existent, his feats the tales of fantasy, and his stabbing loyal people in the back legendary.
He was a thief, liar, fraud, charlatan, and fool. Dear Snibbs, Now I have an assignment for you also. I can find nothing with Mills Crenshaw on Youtube but his talk show. I have one and so does Larry Hartsell. If you fight you can be arrested. He does a multiple man attack and his form is horrible- he looks like an idiot. And in it he is leaner and his hair is all black so he is about 35?
Really look at this crap. So what are you talking about? Every video I see Ed in he is either in slow motion or he looks like a weak blue belt. Anybody can look good in slow motion with the opponent cooperating. Ok another self masogenst my style is best D. Are you a pro football or hockey athlete? Not many of us are. So with your reasoning non of us should do it. Or we should only train with super bull or stanley cup coaches. Is it the athlete or the coach. So for your limp mind I suggest sound principles play a key role.
Please understand we all will preceive and apply these differently. In 56 years ive never applied a class room technique. But without thought on several occasions I have when forced used parts and pieces. Only the resoluts matter. Shut up keep training. Right now I just try to stay healthy and out of hospitals as age and health has caught up with me.
I do remember many years ago attending a martial arts clinic where said Mills and Ed Parker were both participating. I suspect it was recorded by someone but is not up on any youtube videos. I was highly impressed with Ed Parkers skill. His speed, quickness, movements, and power were something to watch. As far as him being a street brawler, who knows? He said he was so I believe it.
People make up things all the time and its getting worse today. I find all kinds of things on youtube where Ed is very skilled. I find the same thing in many other forms of karate. By way of arrest records, is that something to brag about?
You could have an arrest record and not know one stitch of martial arts. Who knows? And, by the way, I find no arrest warrant for either you or Larry Hartsell. Maybe not much for some of them, but at least a little. Actually tom Bleecker admits he new me. The main point is simple- telling people that you can beat 5 knife-wielding attackers is not only stupid, but highly dangerous and irresponsible.
He thought I would win. My goal is always to improve my students- lying and making up idiotic tales of grandeur does not do that. And as I have always said making your students think and believe they can do the impossible can get them killed. As to my being arrested, it was not to brag, but merely to show that I have had a provable fight.
My case was dismissed and the accusing parties went to prison for numerous charges- it was in Portland, Oregon. Larry was arrested in Los Angeles, CA in or his case was dismissed as he and his 2 friends did not start the fight. I went as a ride to help bail him out. A person cannot be bailed out by a 16 year-old. I just ran a Deseret News archive search … no such story. Your lack of knowledge makes you a danger to anyone who might be tempted to take what you post seriously.
First, you misrepresent what others say. A sophomore debate technique. Armed with bottles, clubs, tire irons, knives etc. I had a specific instance in mind. You were making up hot air to make yourself look good. A car load of drunken sailors forced him off the road. That fight lasted seven seconds. Ed took them as they came at him.
He was worried that he had killed the first attacker who, after he had been struck fell backward and hit his head on the blacktop. For those of you who are serious about the subject, have a friend thrust with a rolled up newspaper as though it were a blade.
By closing with the attacker and controlling his elbow you prevent him from slashing at you. Sorry, but the story of Ed and the five sailors is BS. I think you are confusing a s kung fu movie with reality — or Ed was when telling this story. Ed Parker tells the Utah fight story in his own words.
A Karate Illustrated magazine interview, Sept. EP: Yes, nine times in my life. Never has my training failed me, and the longest any fight has lasted was nine seconds at the most. My most memorable one was when I was going to college in Utah. My wife, who was pregnant with my first child, was along that night. They were going to work me over. I dropped two guys within six or seven seconds. I was more frightened that night than in any time of my life. When I hit the first guy, he hit the ground and his head sounded just like a watermelon when it landed.
Everything that was happening, was happening in slow motion. It was like I was watching myself while I was fighting. If I hit him right across the nose and splatter blood all over his shirt, psychologically it will disturb this guy, and worked just like that. So I blocked his shot and hit him right in the back of the neck.
It was funny because he had a cigarette in his mouth and the snap from the hit was so hard it made the cigarette fly. The other guys jumped in the back of the car and locked themselves in. Later, the guy who was lying unconscious started to twitch and his legs moved. Man was I happy. On page 25 of the October issue of Karate Illustrated magazine, an interview with Ryusaki describes his first meeting with Ed Parker. Indeed, the photo on top of pg.
Ed Parker gives Chow the utmost respect. As I look back, I cannot thank him enough for setting me on a path of logical and realistic thinking. Why would Chow give Parker his blessing if Parker was still a brown belt? I think not. In fact, Ed Parker went to college precisely to bolster his own credentials with the public to gain trust and credibility as a teacher. Why would he not seek a basic instructor level credential as a Black Belt in the very field he was good at?
Any tournament clips? Self-defense techniques? They might not even know how to fight. He can generate an awful lot of speed, momentum, and power. The same can be said for my instructor Tony Martinez, Sr. I think Tony is now You might hit some kind of wordpress filter jetpack? I hate censoring.
Oh, and you might check your own computer or browser or whatever. That might slow down the comments. You click on lawsuit and the Deseret article comes right up. It is about a pension fund and blatantly says that you were dismissed from the suit as you filed bankruptcy A golden rule of propaganda, lying, is make it a big lie. This is the basis of all religions. Brigham Young said that there are people living on the moon, they are of uniform size, dress like Quakers, and have been seen with telescopes..
He also stated that people live on the sun. He also stated that he has never been wrong not given false council- no ego there. The point here is make up a big lie and people believe it more readily. When I was at the Santa Monica school he always would set up classes, and then cancel them. He once said he was going to have a Saturday black belt class taught by him to standardize all the techniques and forms- that lasted about 1 day as he cancelled it the next day.
Benny Urquidez, whose credentials are impeccable, was teaching at Santa Monica on Friday nights. He finally left as Ed kept cancelling training appointments. He promised Benny that he would teach him the entire Kenpo system. When I produce a video clip I will show how Ed knew nothing about fighting, basic principles of body mechanics, and how to make some of the techniques work.
Funny how the Senior Grand Master knew so little. I will also show how many Kenpo techniques put you in a worse position than you started in by showing timing errors, bad mechanics, and just plain stupidity.. Yes, Kenpo works great if the opponent stands there and lets you beat him up. But in real life people do not do that. I could not resist my 10 cents worth! First up — Kenpo in tournament fighting is indistinguishable from other Karate systems and from that standpoint it is as though it operates in two parallel universes.
I have yet to see any true Kenpo techniques used in a tournament. Frank Trejo was one of Ed Parkers top students and accomplished fighters. Watch the video of him and tell me where the Kenpo techniques are that are not mirrored in other Karate systems such as Wado-Ryu? The low block called gedan barai advocated as a block against a low strike or kick is a good way to get your arm broken if used against a kick, and I know of guys having done just that!
Over the last decades improvements have emerged in some systems such as Shidokan introducing new and improved techniques such as Muay Thai style leg kicks, western boxing style type punching, and throws. Thirdly — I believe that Ed Parker came along on the Karate scene when more was considered better. We as Americans like to think we are getting perceived value for money and whether it the amount of food we are served in a restaurant or the size of our vehicles the bigger the better.
Without a doubt Ed Parker was very good at marketing his system and he tapped into this with hundreds of self- defense techniques and extension, sets and forms. While he stated that he set about to demystify these ancient arts by removing unnecessary moves he also played right into them!
That is the showman side on display! Lastly — Ed Parker boasted about his street fighting prowess in his Hawaiian days. While I have nothing to substantiate anything to the contrary I still doubt this was true. I knew of a couple of guys who I would have termed as street fighters in my late teens.
They had treble fish hooks under their lapels lone kimono not necessary as well as razor blades in their caps. They also carried large stiletto switch blades and were opportunist fighters using the element of surprise to attack. Not guys to be messed with.
I had never seen the story so when the slanderous claim was made I denied its existence. I was wrong. There was such a story. However, like everything else that Libby spouts that brief, thirteen year old story was false, misleading and inaccurate.
Nevertheless, Mr. Libby was correct, only to the extent that there was such an article. People like Mr. Libby identify themselves for all to see each time they open their mouths or write for public consumption. So be it; Libby raised the specter of religion, that will be the test:. Hundreds of thousands of high ranking Black Belts owe their skills to instructors, teaching on many of the continents of the globe, who got their training either from Ed Parker or one of his first or second generation instructors.
Some have branched out into schools and systems of their own; but most, with the exception of the egocentric, pay respectful tribute, to the man who paved the way. Others sing his praises. Mills, you are such a bore and journalistic hack. You think because you spew a little Shakespeare you are an intellectual giant. But as you, I believe were on his board to promote him from 1st. It is so simple- you said The Deseret News had no such story- I can get it it 1 second.
The other thing anybody can get is how bad Ed really was on Youtube. He looks slow, uncoordinated, and foolish. Watch the 10 man wipe out and look at his kicking, and how some shill falls over from a kick a yellow belt would be ashamed of. Also watch Ed Parker Huk Planas and look at how ridiculous they look. I will effectively show why the training method is so flawed, why these show that Ed knew nothing, and how to make some of them work.
One last thought- this link started about 3 years ago. It had like 80, hits. Now it has over , Frauds like Ed should be exposed. Students should learn valid concepts from good teachers. It mystifies me why anyone ever bought into anything the rotund one espoused. When can we be enlightened? I have a life outside of the Internet.
I am currently very busy with my 18 year-old getting ready to go to university. As to slamming Ed Parker take a number. I am hardly alone in this. To give you a quick idea as to how to better your skills do not block like they do in Kenpo. If you are in a matched use the back hand to block the attackers front hand and the front hand to block the back hand- the opposite of Kenpo and most Karate systems.
Never train off of a step through reverse punch. Always throw counters when the techniques are done, and never use a Kenpo knife defense technique. I have part of the video done, but not all of it. I want to really show how little Ed Parker knew, and be very precise as to why the techniques cannot be used in real time. I want to also show how techniques like twin kimono put you in jeopardy due to how stupid they are it leaves you wide open for a head butt to the face.
There is also the time he and Chuck Norris took on 5 guys in the San Fernando Valley a part of Los Angeles and Ed took out 4 while Chuck struggled to take out 1- also bullshit. Also I believe I mentioned the video about 2 months ago.
But as I stated my daughter going to university is a very big deal for us- she comes first in my time schedule. I only use it for sarcasm. And I am sure I know it better that you, therefore, I know what a sick document it is, so spare me the quotes. More straw man arguments based on fictitious stories, from a man who never met Ed Parker. The incident with the sailors happened on the highway between Provo and Salt lake City.
I know both Chuck and Ed Parker and I have never heard that account from either man. Your understanding of what Parker taught is as fictitious as your straw man stories. Some of the techniques, taught in his name, have strayed from what he taught. But your description is laughable. Nearly as laughable as your childish attempts to attack the Scriptures. I no longer read your infantile Blog; but only respond to the email notifications.
I suggest the handfull of readers who remain do the same. Mills, desperate liars always say stupid things- I was the manager and instructor at the Santa Monica school for about 2 years. Hundreds of people know this. You are a fool. My short time with him influenced my life, he is a great teacher! His workouts were on stone floors waxed to a slippery finish then he added dancers wax or something like that. We wore rope sole shoes and did high spin kicks and a lot of horse stances, you had to have excellent balance and your legs turned to steel.
I am over 50 and still squat in the mid lb range…. I attribute this to my horse stance training in his system. I went to Hollywood again recently but could not find his studio. Jimmy is a great guy. I remember how slick the floors were. I hear he is like 80 and still teaching. Ark Wong taught into his 80s also. Hey mr.
Libby, I read only arguments with no sense from you and I agree it would be good some video clip from you. I think you need to talk to Olohe Solomon Kaihewalu. He was by marraige introduced to Kapu Kuia Lua. Now known as Lua. I believe Lua was not taught to Houlies before this time. It was also forbidden to teach anyone not of Hawaiian descent the art of the King. Kamameha to be precise. So, it is not as if Parker had no experience.
Being that Parker was a Polynesian Bradda, not only in the arts but as a descendant of Hawaii himself. A young lad in Hawaii as a Hawaiian it would be remiss to believe he was not exposed to these things, these schools prior to opening his first Dojo. If you look and piece together the movements alone.
You will see all the influences you would have in the Hawaiian Islands at the time. Who for him to identify the arts before his death would have been forbidden. So why would anyone try to defame the man who actually brought the original mass influence of Asian arts to the American Mainland, including introduction of Jun Fan Bruce Lee to the world. When in reality, they should be thanking him. It is also a demeaning of those who shared their works not only with him but with others prior to him even coming to the mainland.
The reality is to take it and if it is good use it. If not, discard it. With Kenpo there is a lot of infighting just like Taekwondo and at best it is rather strange that they are still fighting as someone wishes to lay claim to who did what, when, where, and how. I applied some of the techniques to my Oh Do Kwan and it works just fine. Again I find it very interesting that they are still fighting over all of this. Salute, Sr. What a swell history lesson- but proves nothing about fighting.
Yes, Rd Introduced Bruce and was instrumental in starting his career. But what dies that have to do with real fighting? I agree Ed got very popular, and loathed at the same time. I worked for him for 2 years. He had so many bad traits- lazy, inconsiderate, egotistical, thief, and liar.
So why should I respect him? Who do I respect in martial ars? The proof is all over Youtube. Look at videos of Ed in his prime and examine how bad he was- pathetic is a better word. Anybody who is that uncoordinated, lacking in power, form and focus, and gases out in under a minute is not a martial artist. Kenpo people can brag about Parker all they want- the proof is in the videos. I read, then investigate and ask the people who were there. It is much more difficult to prove those things.
His ideals are in use today and yes even in MMA. Remember MMA as an ideal started with the people in Palama. And Lua from Hawaii. Where balance meant everything. I find it interesting you name Labelle, Nishioka a student of Nobuo Nishamori a friend of mine. Benny Urquidez a student of Bill Ryusaki. For him and his country. You are still dancing around the issue. If you test the reflexes of a person you would be amazed at how close they are in a basic test.
The point to this is analysis, not a history lesson. When somebody is standing there like a pole it is easy to look great. I know Tino and have moved with him. His strength was his boxing, guile and size- too bad the smoking killed him. And Kenpo is used in MMA? Are you nuts?
One guy sent me all these video clips saying it was Kenpo they were using- pure BS. Also, not only did I know Ed, I worked for him for 2 years after training at his school for 6 years. I new Bill Ryusaki famous for the first personal injury lawsuit as his student used what Bill taught him and hurt a kid at his high school. And when did Benny ever use a Kenpo technique in the ring, or in a fight?
He used boxing with kicking. Put Bobby Lowe into Google and look at videos of a man with the last name Greco doing full contact- he was quite good, but it was boxing with kicking. No one has ever seen a Kenpo technique used in real time as it cannot be done. So I know and have moved with virtually everybody in your history lesson. I guess that is first hand experience as opposed to from a book. So when did you move with any of these people? And I was respected enough as a 15 year old kid to be asked to do a demo for important people.
So once again, who of these people have you actually trained with or done anything with? And as to lazy- Ed truly set the mark. Always cancelling appointments, never training, always late with belt certificates, never training, etc… Ask Nishamori about Bill Asimow- he trained me when I was a kid. He was I believe a 7th degree in judo, but lymphatic cancer ate him up at a fairly early age I think he was like 60 , a real tragedy. And these are all facts. And Tom Bleecker, who said he had no knowledge of me choosing Ed off asked me how I was going to fight Ed.
So you believe who you want. As to the video It is in process. I reviewed it and felt a lot of the angles were a little tricky to see and there were close ups that were too close and longer shits that were too long. And like all cult leaders there is money to made or lost. Many people that praise Ed use his system and rake in the cash.
Or they refuse to really analyze what he taught. So would somebody of such a shoddy and despicable charade perhaps be involved in other questionable practices? So please tell me where I am wrong? Like Bobby Lowe is also dead. Of which you would or should have known. But it might serve one better to seek to unify peace than to foment strife, is that not why one spends all the time training? For me, if I held animosity I would have to say I have missed the target of what all the training was really for.
The reality is I have seen and used many of the techniques in real life like fist of jade, spear of jade, leap of death. They have worked, not in the ring where everyone is bound by those rules. But in the street. Many of the techniques are similar. History is important because if you know from where you come, you are less likely to get lost along the path you travel. Empty means your mind. I figured they were dead. But you never know.
Jimmy W. Woo is still teaching and he is like Another reason we train is to learn reality and to analyze. We also need to speak out when we see blatant stupidity that can get people hurt. We also need to improve concepts and techniques to make them more realistic. We also need to expose fraudulent ideas and practitioners. I feel that almost any martial art is great as a form of exercise and for health. But when I see ideas that are so ridiculous that they get people hurt I will speak out.
And just as I speak out against religious cults as they are dangerous I will speak out against false martial arts concepts. And please. I know all about Oyama and Lowe. The grappling arts are the most effective and always have been. A really great analysis on the supposed efficacy of most karate and kung fu systems.
Actually Tino fought in the Korean war at the Battle of Inchon. And I was wrong as I thought he died. What happened was he had a heart attack as he was a smoker. I do know that Arnold Urquidez had a lot of respect for Tino. The reality is all Parker did was string techniques together.
I think anyone who has been in a Kara Te class has thrown a side kick, wheel kick, chicken kick, round kick, punch thus it is called Kenpo Fist Law. I study under someone who is part of the Parker lineage. If it helps, my instructor is friends with Frank Trejo and Mr. Trejo visited our location several years ago. Enough said. In my opinion, these people are all the same author posting under different aliases.
All the posts tend to misspell similar words and follow consistent grammatical formatting. The tone of the writing is almost identical. Exclamation points are very similar too. Whenever one of these posters is super jacked up, I usually see 6 exclamations points.
Normally jacked up gets 4 exclamation points. Sort of jacked is 1 or 2. Almost every time. So for everyone reading, have a look. Word — Dash — Space — Next Word. There are two hyphens used. You should maybe read them again. And almost no exclamation points- what are you talking about? And boxers and MMA people all use the blocking method I described. Snibbs, you obviously know damn little. Have to figure anybody that will do that is obviously a fraud, or take part in it.
The anger comes from all the fraud in so many areas that are so prevalent in America. Joseph Smith taught that black people were descended from demons and cursed by God. They were never allowed in until in the s when black incomes rose in America.
He was so hated that they finally dragged him out of his cell and assassinated him. Read their beliefs before you call me a bigot. Mormonism is a whack job relation created by a thief, bigot and mad man. I know nothing. I was going to ask you if you have more than 1 or 2 good friends? Make that any friends. And if you do is he as miserable as you are?
Lots of talk but a no-show from what appears to be a big-talker. Lets see some video. Simple as that. Same offer Snibbs- when and where? You want to call eomebody a clown you had better be able to back it up punk. Gee Snibbs, how easily you get rattled. To make a good video takes about 3 hours per technique, so 15 to 16 hours. I do not so things in a half assed fashion. Their is the Kenpo technique, why it is wrong, explaining realistic fighting concepts, and then the improved version. To do an 18 minute American sitcom takes 1 week for 18 minutes — do the math.
Nobody can produce one of those. I can lead you to many bad ones. People like you- the wafflers who have no commitment to anything. You flip-flop like a pancake. And I am quite happy with plenty of friends. A criminal record Uncontrolled temper Uncontrolled language Bitter, angry old man. Yeah, you sound like you must be a real winner with lots of friends. I only wish I could have seen Ed in his prime and you in yours.
Attacking a deceased individual and then anybody else who happens to come in your way. Big, bravo, and macho. Fifteen to 16 hours to film 3 techniques? You can do it in about 2 minutes and everyone knows that. Enough of the bragging. You were busted by an earlier poster. Now go have some dinner by yourself because you have no friends, family, or life.
Truth is what it is. If I hold the truth and present it to you and you do not accept it, I do not get angry. I just move on. If the truth is presented and your base, much like in the arts is weak you are easily uprooted and become frustrated, and angry.
You are not very well rooted in either your beliefs nor in your argument. So they do not use one technique. They use many techniques from the system. Chow taught Parker. Keep it going…….. I met Mr Parker once at a seminar. He seemed impressive to me and I was glad I wasnt a dummie of his because he beat the hell out of those guys lol.
Mitchell first who I can attest to being able to handle his self and several others in that class that could. Mitchell then wen to study with Parker. IMHO Kenpo techniques teach quick reaction to in the face situations. Most systems if practiced live with adjustments can be devastating. I many years ago did a non contact style of TKD which often gets shit for good reason.
However several of us who had studied Judo, adapted sparring to full contact with throws, and Ne Waza. I was talking with Rorian Gracie in 89 and thought that Bjj was Ne Waza on roids, showed the first gracie in action tape to my father a judo instructor and it added greatly to our play. Finally beware of challangeing old men lol. You might get me, or many much tougher, say Google Jim Harrison for one.
But please continue I love history and the back and forth even if it gets a little disrespectful. Thank you. Which is basically Kenpo Jiu Jitsu. Who was asked by Theodore Roosevelt to teach his techniques of Jiu Jistu. He was so embarrassed by the incident he left the country and moved to Brazil. Maeda had no money or place to stay so in exchange he taught Cano Judo to the Gracies in exchange. At this time Judo focused on the joint manipulation and different Waza.
He taught these to the Gracies. Thus Gracie or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu was born. Okazaki Sensei began teaching forms of Jiu Jitsu in Hawaii. Yes then there was Ed K. Where Jun Fan otherwise known by his friends as Bruce Lee. Was introduced to the World. Especially if you have heart issues. Tired lethargy are part of it, shortness of breath another. So to judge based upon that is assuming a lot. Parker died of a Heart Attack at a fairly young age.
So maybe just maybe, just maybe he was focusing on the mental aspects and depending on his younger acolytes to produce the movements. But what can not be taken away was the profound effect he had on Martial Arts in the Western world. We have all gained benefit from Parker in some way. I find it very hard to take anything posted as being credible when the author who wrote this piece does not have his or her name posted to the article. Who wrote this?? LOL…What nonsense! Yes there was a tax dispute and a case filed.
Corrected returns filed, all back taxes and penalties paid and that file is so old it is about to be expunged. That record will be cleared; but you will still have to live with the sick and demented person you are. Best of luck with that. You are absolutely correct. My answer was always the same:. When was their funeral? What hospital are they in? Not hospitalized? Let them continue in their ignorance. Feel sorry for them. They were not trained by a true master of the art.
How about we try that idea out? Sorry, but you are a fool. Steve, Ed probably never got more than a brown. Hey Mills- deny that you promoted Ed with all your cronies!!! And you all could reap economic benefits from this charade. Robert, Whoa man take a breath. No dispute on your facts all true. You see, yes he was a brown belt under Chow. Parker had all the Kenpo he needed from Chow. His art as it currently stands is so much more than the rudimentary movements Chow taught.
As for his rank, well, who else would you want promoting him? A committee of peers makes sense and is the norm in many organizations absent a central leader. Ed Parker was the master of Ed Parker Kenpo. Ed Parker was a big Hawiaan who loved to eat. Had he gone and had a physical perhaps a bypass would have saved his life.
We are all responsible for our own health. He was a teacher and there were plenty of his students who did compete: Tom Kelly, Lee Wedlake, Frank Trejo, Manny Rejes, and many more all over the country have competed under the Ed Parker banner. Recall the Internationals? As a guy who is fond of facts, look out at the Kenpo landscape across the country and the many different off shoot systems that trace their origins back to Ed Parker.
All these people have trained countless more students who in turn may have started their own studios and the flame is carried on. All because of Ed Parker. Have a safe and enjoyable holiday week. Steve Shaffer. They will run you into the ground. The Internationals are a non-contact event and meaningless- the officiating was often horrible and mant times rings were stacked with one competitors school.
Read Joe Lewis opinions about non-contact tournaments- I helped run the Internationals several times. As to his promotions- he could have gone back, apologized, and been promoted. And he was also dishonest. He constantly made promises he never kept, late with promotion certificates, made commitments to his instructors and then broke them, lied about people Paul Dalton in particular , and neither trained nor taught. Do not use Palanzo as a reference- he is a clown. I watched his videos and he is a complete zero.
Like fake religions people became brainwashed. Paul Vunak talks about irresponsible teaching in regard to the knife- he is right. Also watch the Joe Rogan show with Bas Ruten. So do something that I suggest to many- go in the ring- you will get clobbered.
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Thank you for your article. I have heard some stories as well but have not heard this one before about Ed Parker. It is always sad when a student takes the less desirable path. It is even worse when they turn on other Martial Artists that are trying to help them.
Do you have any idea what happened to Jimmy? It was located on Hollywood Blvd. I used to pass by it and look in and wonder about it. It was dark and dingy, had tile floors. I think it is a bakery now. Can you say commitment? No embalming room, haha! Later, after my father and the others trailed off, due to marriage, family, etc…the new students were ushered in, and Jimmy moved to Winona Blvd. His students built him a huge structure in his backyard, to teach. Please email me your contact info.
Having perused this thread and first noticing the prejudiced, inflammatory and highly suspect initial report which is 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th hand knowledge and not even knowing or verifying the details of Mr. Parker is the bad guy? Hawaiian Kempo was a traditional Okinawan karate do system brought to Hawaii. He wanted to modernize the system which was, at the time, a traditional rendition of what could never be mistaken for applicable fighting techniques.
Parker attempted to upgrade the old-school form into street-applicable science. He failed miserably. While his American Kenpo techniques did make a huge improvement in technical use, they held onto the traditional karate form that has failed so many people in so many fights. The result is an army of kenpo systems that study high-level techniques in front of a mirror, in simulated scenarios, and instructor prompted reactions. The martial artists never become fighters.
When they do spar, they use none of what is taught in kenpo. Instead, they revert to kickboxing-like tactics. There is, however, very little Chinese influence in the system. Parker applied the trapping inspirations with a traditional karate body motion. His claim to Chinese ancestry is, at best, third generation; inherited from the old Okinawan karate do systems like Goju Ryu Karate Do.
I have been a dedicated martial artist for 25 years. I have also studied on the traditional Okinawan side, and the traditional korean side. In order for something to become Chinese in origin, it must adapt a CHinese body motion. For instance, a Japanese Karate Master cannot go to China and pass himself off as a Kung Fu Master; the body motions are completely different. There have been a few since Parker who achieved his goal for him. As a final thought, if all traditional systems would eliminate the katas and set techniques from their systems, after extracting all the basic movements, and then teach and practice those movements the way a prize fighter does, most systems would develop high levels of applicability.
Practical theory and proof of practicality are not the same thing. No second hand information can prepare you for a first hand confrontation. To say it has very little Chinese influence is not true… Okinawan Kenpo is directly linked to Shaolin Kenpo or Chaun-fa.. The principles are the same… and both very effective. I studied both for several years and they are different but Chinese Kung fu influenced Okinawan Kenpo greatly..
I am sure you know which by the way I describe…. Check out the youtube video titled Interview with Tony Martinez Sr. He studied under Ed Parker. In the interview he is a 9th degree black belt in Kenpo, started out boxing, after 50 fights with 45 knockouts he moved into Kenpo. He did beat Chuck Norris. Chuck talked about all his students with their trophies while he had nothing. I started training with Sifu James Wing Woo in and he is like a second father to me. That story of Parker and Sifu is essentially true regarding the book, but he went on to build a successful practice and a dedicated group of students.
He always teaches the classes himself, days a year. Best, Bill Nadal. It makes me sick when I hear how big and bad Ed Parker was. Instead, Parker went and begged Gene La Bell to take the fight. Why did Parker refuse the challenge? He claims to have done some backyard boxing and that along with his size should have been a plus. Fact is that Savage a brutal launcher would have cleaned Parkers clock. I knew Milio Savage very well. We had many conversations over lunch and a brisket.
They sicked La Bell on him and made him wear a go top. BTW…Gene had a lot of friends who were, you know like the guys in the Sopranos. A lot of intimidation. And I was the one who contacted Ed Parker about the challenge. Because Savage was in Salt Lake I wanted to accept it. I was disappointed but out of respect I agreed. The idea of Parker refusing a challenge is ridiculous and anyone who passes on these lies is an ASS.
After he developed his version of Kenpo he was in seven serious fights in his life. I personally complained to the referee. LeBell toyed with Savage, pretended to have been hurt by a couple of body shots; and then stepped behind Savage and used the gi top to execute a scarf strangle.
Savage was out in seconds. I am sick of hearing these phony stories from punks who never really knew my friend and brother. Unfortunately for them, there are still a few of us greybeards who are still around who were there and can set the record straight. Here is another FACT. He was not only my only instructor, through the decades he became my friend and brother.
Crenshaw, Thank you for stepping in the digital internet ring and keeping the record straight. All of them said, Mr. Parker was the Alpha male in the room during those days. Parker backing down, thanks for confirming none of this happened. Steve, Mills has verified nothing. He lies as demonetrated by 1.
I never knew Ed, 2. He was never nanmed in a lawsuit in the Deseret News and no such article existr, I believe it is Dec. Ed beat 5 armed wailors in 7 seconds armed with clubs and knives. You are obviously one of the brainwawhed that needs to believe this crap.
Loved reading your reply. I love passing these stories on to my students. Chuck and Vic also love telling stories. My email is PUMA. Kenpo gmail. Is your name Mills Crenshaw or a nickname? We have a technique called Crenshaw High Five. Thank god someone out there is speaking some truth, there really is so much BS on the internet about Mr.
Looks to me like this was a false story perpetuated by the Tracy brothers. They got the axe because they were misrepresenting the ideals of the system. What did they do? Back in the day much of the good bits of the system were hidden so you could not misuse it and guess what, none of the Tracy guys fully understand the system lol!. Suckers… jokes on you.
Even in death Mr. Parker had his way. Parker has plenty of material available on Amazon if you interested in the real story. Good lord, this just reeks of so much BS! Ed Parker was out for a quick buck…period. A guy too fat to run a block or do a sit up beats 5 guys with weapons in 7 seconds? Ed was a fraud. Why from Mills? Why not from Ed Jr. But the one presented by Mills Crenshaw says Ed is a shodan or 1st. So where did Ed get all the degrees leading up to his 10th. And many say Ed never got a black, but rather his highest belt was hrown.
I trained Monday through Friday in the afternoons and evening classes, and then went in on Saturday, which is when Dan Inosanto taught. So I basically lived there. Russ was a small man- but he cut his teeth sparring with Scott Loring. Russ fought like a cross between a game cock and a cat. The reason for this little history lesson is point something out- you never see any reference to Ed PArker teaching. And all his classes at Pasadena, the home school were taught by people like Frank Trejo, Dave Hebler or others.
Now the plot thickens. So Robert got inot a verbal arguemnt with a PArker green belt. And can you oimagine a guy urinating in public in a posh Westwood health club? That is how Ed Parker pays back those that are loyal to him. Ed was a scumbag, a thief, a liar, a fraud, and I beklieve mentally ill. So did Robert take this lying down?
He called Ed at his house from the phone of Tom Bleecker. He has a very bad heart and could die if he fights. He was nothing but a fat-mouthed coward. The techniques are crap and canot work in a real fight. Because they are a fraud and do not work, just like their creator. To be told is to be lied to. To be shown is to be fooled. But to feel is to beleave. You are a cowerd. You are a parrot. Were wear your words when he was alive.
I chose him off when he was 42 years old after he threatened to beat up my white belts, and then chickened out. You need to loosen your tin foil hat pal. Get into a no holes barred fight with a kenpo practioner than let us know how ineffective the art is…dumbass. You should read the whole thing. Seems a lot of people say what I say, Another Kenpo black belt talks about Ed getting his ass kicked. Others agree that I chose Ed off. Now please submit one video where Ed even looks decent.
I can post numerous ones where he looks pathetic. Now go loosen your tin foil hat. Meaning fighting, REAL fighting, with no judges, no points awarded, no rounds, no time limits, no rules whatsoever, with the only exception being that no weapons of any kind are allowed.
Eye gouging, headbutting, elbows, groin attacks, biting, fish hooking, kicking and stomping downed opponents, are ALL permissable. For that is the true nature of real unarmed hand-to-hand combat. No gloves, handwraps, or protective equipment of any kind is permitted. For that too, is the nature of hand-to-hand combat, and the way in which an actual attack on the street will occur. And then at an appropiate time such as after class i respectfully challenge anyone at said school to PROVE their competency as a martial artist, and expert of their respective style of martial arts, to a fight under the above stated conditions.
Some may frown upon this, or find this to disrespectful be offensive. As long as you pay the money and show up, and demonstrate your proficiency in the bullshit you have been taught, u will advance thru the ranks to black belt in a fairly short time. Some schools in as little as 2 years. This is a challenge which I am always ready and willing to accept at any time. Dear Matt Jack, you are spinning your wheels here and I say that with respect for you.
In the s we went to other schools as well to learn. We also had new ideas coming in that were effective. But what is so sad is I have seen people I used to know that have totally sold out for money and forgotten was taught to them by great people like Larry Hartsell. Joshua Pestaner, after running his fat mouth and lying, would not take part in a boxing match with rules that had a nice pay day for showing up, and that is because he is a coward and a punk.
Steve Shaffer ran from the thought of me like a coward with me just resisting his techniques with zero offensive moves. I also backed down Ed Parker. You have Ron Chapel who claims a PhD yet will never say where it is from. And Kenpo people are silent because they are all scammers as well with cult like practices. I respect what you are doing but they will never accept your challenge as they are spineless cult members with zero real skills.
Good luck to you in your training and have a good life! Robert Libby. I studied with you around I was 13 at the time. Whatever happened to them? Also what have you been up to for the last 50 years? Look forward to hearing from you. Yes, I do remember you! You were tall and sort of gangly like many young kids.
And I remember your dad would come and often watched the classes. As I remember him he was short with glasses. I have been to 16 countries and now live in Thailand. I have mostly taught things to people and was a professor in Thailand for awhile. Nice to hear from you and hope all is well with you! But I am fat now. I was a dumb and immature kid back then. Congratulations on becoming an accomplished martial artist and for living an interesting life.
I am curious about what happened to those guys. And what about that guy who crashed the window, Ed Wenke? Is that his name? I also remember your brother. How is he doing? Give him my regards. I am also interested on how Parker screwed Dalton. Again, I was a kid.
But looking back with the lens of an adult, I did see some of the signs you were talking about. I never saw Parker train nor saw him demonstrate his skills. Legends often do exceed the man who actually carried it. For me, I went on to become an attorney and criminal prosecutor. But I am retired now. My passion is the shooting sports and, believe it or not, martial arts concepts are readily transferable to obtaining the skill to shoot with speed and accuracy. I hold a sharp shooter classification which is comparable to a brown belt and I working towards expert marksman.
I would be interested in hearing more details on your career path. Thanks for replying. For one thing, all you Scholars of Kenpo, your Mix of What?. Never become Kenpo Until it came to the States by Parker. Forth Being the Highest Level of that system of Kempo at the time. All you people trying to make false statements you know nothing about. So it tells me, You have not lived a life of any Martial Arts, since your Dis Respect to anyone teaching or training, show exactly who and what you are today.
Fighting in any manner is for Fools, broken Noses, Calif lower Ears and Brain damage before you are 40 years old. As we witness with all these mouth warrior, who coming to any kind of Training, is as foul and dis Respectful as we witness in all these comments and personal attacks on people who are gone.
There is nothing to Prove, after watching all you who claim No rules bare knuckle fighting. Are you kidding me, and what Back Getto are you fighting in. When my System, the only one hitting the Mat, was the person I just defended against. This has been proven conclusively. Why are you even doing Kajukenbo then? The founder of that style had a rather high opinion of Ed Parker and Al Tracy. You were a bouncer at 12 different places in 12 years? Because storming dojos sounds like a mental illness.
Are you trying to compensate for a small penis or cope with your latent homosexuality? That would probably explain your affinity with rasslin and grinding on other men. The funny thing is, when someone does use traditional martial arts in MMA, the average low I. As a lifelong Judoka and wrestler, I could storm Muay Thai and boxing gyms and win a lot too, but that would hardly make boxing and Muay Thai non-effective for self defense and just enjoyments for the amazing martial arts and sports that they are.
I knew the truth would come out. He used to create techniques and carry them around on index cards. Listen, the man has passed and maybe these things should have been brought up when he was alive, but the truth must be made public. Now, kajukenbo guys those are different animals. Most can fight and a great majority have pretty decent boxing skills. Parker did a lot to popularize and promote the arts, but on a skill-fight- condition level he was not up to par.
Just my 2 cents. Most martial artists have never been in a serious fight in their life. Ed Parker had seven that I know of. However, if you would like to visit Salt Lake I would be happy to drag my weary bones on the matt and let you show me the error of my ways. We can use the studio facilities of one of my students, Tony Martinez at West South. Either of us would be happy to entertain you…bring your lunch. When would a man as busy as Ed Parker be able to teach regularly?
There are many bad schools, that is obvious and backed up by videos on youtube. There are also great schools that are ran by black belts who devoted their entire lives to Karate. Imagine what these MMA fighters who devote their lives to different Martial art principles would do outside of a ring to someone without a cup, referee, mouthguard, gloves, and a padded cage. That is when you would see Karate in action, not in a tournament governed by rules concerning the safety of the fighters.
Matt, the answer to your question is easy to find. What about Chuck Liddel…. Seems to have done fairly well in MMA if you ask me…. Sometimes the cognitive dissonance here is so thick you can cut it with a knife! Chick Liddell was just promoted to 8th degree in Kempo. But he never used it in MMA fights!
He rarely even kicks and is basically a great slugger with brilliant takedown defenses! He is one of my all-time favorite fighters and a class act, but never used Kempo in the octagon! Please show where he uses Kempo! Easy man…. Whether or not they use their Kempo training in MMA is up for debate, but I would imagine the individual fighters would be the ones to say how useful it was for them.
The techniques were never intended to be followed verbatim, but to provide openings for different movements depending on how the fight played out. We were only permitted a flashlight of any size or design we chose. I studied Kenpo for awhile too. I know from experience. Parker trained Elvis Prestley and Elvis even earned his black belt from Parker.
You Tube it. IF you take the time to exam the method to todays fighting culture has changed and everyone now thinks they are bad boy MMA fighters oddly kenpo was evolving and was a form of MMA for decades as was Jun Fan. A real fight becomes animalistic that is a brawl in my book.
Ultimate means death no matter the system used its a free for all in that scenario. Just like playing a chord or scale in music as I see your avatar seriously when have you used a 2 octave scale in a song? You get my point…. Dear Mills, You are so full of crap- to be blunt. Ed was like 42 and Robert was OK, Ed was older, but why did Lelani call for Ed? Why did Ed duck the Milo Savage fight? You say he had 7 street fights- you are a liar. And against 4 o 5 armed attackers- now who is the liar and fool Mills?
If you know anything about fighting, you know that 1 armed attacker can be serious. Ed never fought anybody as he would have dropped dead. So you can quote the noble bard all you want- Ed was an out of shape wind bag, liar, thief, and a fraud. He never got a black belt from Chow, was promoted to 5th. He came in, talked a little bit, took the money, and went home. The thing we are glad about is that hits on this site have sky-rocketed, and exposing Ed and Kenpo for the fraud that it is may save somebody from getting clobbered.
So Mills, curl up with a good book after you put on your Spider Man PJs and fantasize as to how great Ed and Kenpo are- you are a fool and liar like your mentor. You are right. Ed Parker was an obvious fraud. One need not have known him to be aware of that. His disgrace is in his videos. Look at what he did on that Lucy show — I thought all the negative things I heard about him were just sour grapes — until I saw that.
But please do not knock true Kenpo. As I understood it, Ed Parker broke off from an art — not Kenpo, but Kempo — after learning far too little to do what he eventually did. Creating a fabricated art with a stolen name, and declaring himself a Super Grand Master. Early on, Ed Parker wore a white gi, as Kempo Karateka do. But he did not steal the art — he did not have the skill to mimic it. It took you 6 years of Kenpo training to realize it was a fraud?
While this post is is not directed at the late Ed Parker I have to say that I find any statement made by a person or third party saying that a martial artist took out 4 to 5 armed attackers as beyond any reasonable belief. He took out four large guys in rapid succession but they were all unarmed. They were all laid out like road kills! He would always advocated that we should get into street fights to put our skills to the test.
He told me that he had been sparring with this Japanese instructor. Our instructor was a regional champion! Hey Sir i have to agree with you on that one. I got into with a guy and friends showed up, and I barely got outta there. I was able to handle two of them and get to my weapon before the others knew what was going on. What a mess I was!! As I read your post I actually laughed. I had this mental picture of a Chihuahua yapping at a Great Dane. You sir are a childish fool and I dismiss you without argument.
To those who are serious researchers and are interested in historic fact rather than inane bluster, I refer you to Master of the arts Ted Sumner, now a Kenpo Tenth Dan. Ted, whom I am honored to call friend, Is a true Warrior. As a twenty-three year old Vietnam vet He looked like he was only 17 he went under Deep Cover in the life and death world of narcotics trafficking.
For him, Kenpo was not a game, a sport, or an art; it was Life and Death. Ask Ted Sumner about Ed Parker. The yapping of these know-nothing puppies is, and should be dismissed as, the drunken mouthings of adolescents. But Ted Sumner is a blooded warrior.
He was attacked, with intent to kill, by murderers, gang members and multiple armed attackers. His assessment you can take to the bank. Ask him what he thinks of Ed Parker and what his opinion is of those who are now trying to tarnish his reputation. That blunder could cost you the use of an arm, a leg; or your life. Yes, we all grow older.
Just before his death Ed Parker had white hair and had put on weight. But he was the Master of the art of Kenpo. He was a true warrior. The pathetic clowns who try to besmirch his memory will never know what he knew because they only run their mouths… Ed Parker engaged his brain. Ask Ted Sumner what he thought of Ed Parker. He knows. Artless hangers-on typed out a never ending stream, of fact-less books and manuscripts and each one had this theme:.
The jackals gather round the crypt, and sniff the fetid air for hints of gold and favors that live no longer there. He was never challenged. It happened exactly as I stated. It might be a good idea to contact Bob and ask him. Parker shut his class down, and Bob challenged Mr. Parker asked him not to. Parker would have threatened anyone, while making someone shut down a class yet back away from a fight after being threatened by Bob? Bob is just a jerk who wants some fame for his videos now.
If this story were true, many, many people would have heard about it over the years. Tom, you are a liar. You were in the room with Gary Brandolino when Bob called Ed and chose him off. And it was Tom that dared Bob to do it.
They then had a discussion as to how Bob would fight him. Just like all cults they are coated in lies and distortions. Just look at the basics- Ed never trained, dropped dead from a massive heart attack, and was warned by Terry Robinson that he would die. He was on a cane from gout, could barely get around, and looked like death warmed over.
Bob will respond soon. He has assured me that Tom Bleecker is lying. I have trained under Bob and he is for real. He has also assured me that one can tell that Mills is an idiot. This from a man that never trained. This is even far-fetched for Kenpo bullshitters. Mills, I wish you younger to give you the beating you deserve. You said I have it and dialed it for me. I insulted Ed right in front of you and Gary and then chose him off for threatening to beat up my beginning students.
I told Ed I would fight him anytime- anyplace. I also told Ed that he was a punk, a thief, and a bully. When I arrived home Lelani called me in tears and begged me not to fight Ed as he had a very bad heart and was near death. I promised her I would not do a sickly man any harm and left it there. So Tom, are you sickly, senile, or just playing politics like usual? You know what I am saying is the truth Also, American Kenpo currently has more 10th. Whose Johnson do you suck to get one? You give them out like popcorn at a movie.
I can see how much credibility you have in the business world- as much as you have in martial arts. And what proof do we have that you say you are who you say you are? Where are your so called credentials other than ranom name drops? All i see is another keybkard warrior teying to buikd himself up by tearing others down. Ask Tom Bleecker. Ask him who taught the classes in Chico, Calif for 2 years. See if he respects my abilities. So now Michael Brooks you goddamn coward I think I have proven what my credentials are.
Now reveal who you are bitch! But you will never will. You will just crawl back under your rock where you belong! So the Parker legacy? Bad schools with incompetent instructors that just keep continuing the bullshit! Ed Parker would not fight me because he was all talk and no action. He was a fake who knew how to take advantage of people. And my track record against Kenpo black belts is All backed down and even from a friendly exchange of ideas! Also, I have 12 videos on YouTube.
I am not hiding from anybody. You are new here so I will elucidate you. I challenged Kenpo. You do the grab and I will only resist and do no offensive strikes- I will just resist and defeat virtually the techniques as they do not work. And as I use no offense you must stick to the technique- nobody stepped forward. He made up stories to make an image and then marketed the image. He never trained, never competed, and rarely taught. In the 6 years I spent at the Santa Monica school he taught maybe two times.
He always talked about doing something but never did! But understand Kenpo being personally changed by its teachers. My own ranking was white brown black. The rainbow colors are definetly different. I only know what i was taught with various MA styles from 75 to present along side. I have no input about Parker just know what works. Sorry, in my youth it would have been less than that; but age catches up with all of us as you will learn. You did have a mother didn;t you? It was hosted by the late Nick Adams.
He had a green in Kenpo. Many people were on the 1 hour show- the Urquidez brothers, Ed Parker, and others. He did it one time and was gasping for air. A second time and he could barely talk, and the 3rd. My brother, who was older, asked me id Ed was sick. There are about 10 Kenpo techniques that can work, but only if changed. The reasons for the changes are that Ed was a very flawed technician and knew little about fighting.
This was because he never competed; never got his black belt from KS Chow; and never had a real fight. A martial artist should never train off of a step through reverse punch as nobody throws that punch. All techniques should be done in real time and with various counters thrown to build reflexes. Non-contact sparring should never be done as it destroys real fighting skills- there should always be at least light contact.
Students should learn how to deal with lines of attack and not preset attacks and counters. Students should learn a ground game like judo or BJJ. Students should learn how deadly serious a knife can be, and not raised on crazy stories of ANYBODY beating 4 to 5 armed attackers- that is the time to run. A magnum may not penetrate a bullet resistant vest, a combat bowie will!!!! Now Millls this is Robert Libby that has been writing, not my student.
He is repeating stories I have told him. But they are true. I have told him to never speak for me again, and he has done this before. If Tom Bleecker says he has no knowledge of me choosing off Ed in his living room he is a liar. He even told people about it who asked me if I chose Ed off. And yes, Lelani begged me not to trash Ed due to his bad heart. I checked you out, and you are a nut case. You are a man released from lawsuit due to filing bankruptcy. You live in a whack job state, Utah, and follow a whack job religion, Mormonism.
It has no merit for so many reasons. Let me elucidate. My students asked me to fight in the Internationals. He was dating Kim Burbridge, Bob Burbridge;s sister. So who are the corners? My students were floored. I had a few choice words for Pat Johnson as I was exiting the area.
Steve Sanders once fought Chuck Norris- we had a film of it. You could move it back and forth and see exactly what happened. Steve slaughtered Norris- match Norris. I was fighting in the Four Seasons tournament as a green belt. I was headed for the finals. My last match was against a Lima Lama kid named Esquivet. The last shot was him throwing a spinning rear kick- I blocked it perfectly and hit him with a reverse punch- he got the point. It was awarded by his father. I believe his name was Saul Esquivel.
Steve Sanders had been coaching me at the tournament and was disgusted, Several black belts were actually holding me down as I was going to knock out Saul Esquivel. Tournament karate had no rules for officiating. It is filled with stories of bad calls and biased officiating. So never bore me with tales of bravado from the tournament world.
Both Steve Sanders and Joe Lewis have spoken about what crap tournaments are. But this is just like you- use a meaningless reference from a crap system with no validity- Mormonism, Kenpo, Ed Parker, tournament karate. Take your pick, they are all BS. No Mills I will not come in and pimp slap the white off of your teeth as you are a pathetic wind bag.
I am 15 years younger and 80lbs heavier You mean nothing to me. My credentials are solid. The best step I ever took was to abandon Kenpo. I do respect a lot of the Kenpo people, although I feel they are misguided in their opinions of Ed and Kenpo. I find it hard to believe that anyone who has truly internalized the spirit of the martial arts would be such a bigot.
How about pics of a black belt class of mr parker kicking above his waist to the head in the 90s. I admit up to green belt it felt choreography. But at brown I saw clearly. Robert or Ron or Mickey Mouse, who knows who or what you are. The suit dragged on for five years; there was no bankruptcy, and no judgement. We won every single issue and the suit was dismissed with prejudice.
It is a matter of record. Yes, Ed Parker grew old. You will too if you are allowed to live. Those of us who knew and trained with Parker in his prime know just how pathetic your attempts to defame him are. I suspect that you wrote all of the previous posts as they contain the same childish drivel. You have exposed your ugly soul to all who have read the lies you have spued.
The entire martial arts world will know you — congratulations- your fame is well earned. You will be known as a vicious, petty, lying slander, who will no longer be welcome among people of integrity. Nobody is infringing on that. From the information you posted about Mills above, I also did some searching. Your citing things and events that are 12 years old. Can we do a little better than that? Which is different than all the people you are attacking in this forum.
You should see how that would work with someone like Tony Martinez, Sr. But go ahead and try to block with that back hand. They would make mincemeat out of your frontal features very quickly. Why so nasty anyway? It sounds like you always have to be right. And when something comes along that challenges your point of view, you attack everything about them-the style the study, their religion, their personal life, etc.
I do have a suggestion. You see, while you did a google search on Mills Crenshaw, I did my own research on not only him, but on you. First, some of the things you comment on are 12 years old. Can we get more current than that? Second, while I can find Mills all over the internet, I cannot find anything about you. Strange with all your knowledge, connections, prowess, etc. These are the folks I know-of course all of them not worthy of any respect from your point of view, where this would meet with dire consequences.
That technique done against Tony Martinez, Sr. But you go ahead and be thinking about that back hand block. I do what I enjoy doing, and you enjoy I think doing what you do. What I do think is in poor taste is the attack on others, particularly one that is no longer living. Maybe we should be worried about you? What a punk! You dream up these fake conversations and names to stir things up to drive people to your site to sell them something.
No video to show us of you and how great you are? Big talker. Solid credentials, huh? Tell us your real name and provide us with highlights of your wonderful martial arts skills to enlighten us. Then let us know who some of your students are. Sorry Snibb I am DOB No, Kenpo does not work. Does that even sound dimly credible to you? Knives are very deadly and leave massive damage. You do not block with the forearm, but rather pass the knife as you zone to stay away from the business end.
This type of Hollywood BS does in fact get people killed, and that is my concern. I watched a Kenpo 4th. Watch a boxer block- they merely swipe jabs and crosses away. Inward blocks do not work in real time. It breaks down into a sort of full-contact karate. My aim is simple- I do not want people making life changing decisions based on errant information.
You only show your ignorance. When you are an older more experienced man you will urge your grandkids to train in tkd mma boxing or self defence just to understand the reality of defending themselves. Sorry, as a Kenpo practitioner myself, I really would hate for you to miss the chance to see an art that demonstrates the very core of what makes a martial arts technique effective. But I never understood why the art did not work until I studied Kenpo.
You and I both know that Ed Parker had nought but a con. His hoax was not true Kenpo — he stole the name as well. My guess is that he was a colored rank in Kempo — a poor one at that. What he did was an absolute disgrace, and there may never be a way to reverse the damage he has caused. Anyone in the know can easily spot him as a fake. Mills- the lawsuit is in the Deseret News of Utah- but I did lie. The claimant was awarded 89, and may go to , Or is their another talk show host named Mills Crenshaw in Utah?
So who is the liar?